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Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by Anonymous
5/10/2007  7:23:00 AM
"I give you page numbers and direct quotes from the teccnique books."

Fine. Please point me to where it says that the only similarity between dancing and walking is that you have two feet. You can't, because you made that ignorant theory up on your own.

"If you walked the way you dance you would get arrested. And if you danced the way you walk. How interesting.

"With your foot moving ahead of your body you cannot get your body ahead of your foot."

I do it BEFORE my foot moves ahead of my body.

"Would anybody care to go to the Learning Centre. Click on a Forward Walk and study."

Sadly, it's done wrong there. Jonathan didn't fully understand the issues when he made that sequence years ago, as even he will point out!

"It doesn't cost anything. If you can see the body in front of the moving foot at anytime . Tell me which frame."

The body is obviously far ahead the moving foot at the time when the moving foot becomes the moving foot!

"If Anonymous can tell me the three different types of Forward Walks he speaks of. Then tell me."

Rising, lowering, and constant altitude. And then variations of these around various average altitudes, high medium or low. Each will have DIFFERENT DETAILS because each is a DIFFERENT ACTION.

"Dont try to tell me that if this is a Toe following the Heel Lead there is going to be any difference in the passing foot action."

Try taking some lessons with a real teacher. It's in the book, but you've proven your inabilty to understand the full impact of what is written there.
Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by Q.
5/10/2007  6:36:00 PM
Go look at Anna's comments under midway. It says it all.
Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by anymouse
5/10/2007  9:11:00 PM
"Go look at Anna's comments under midway. It says it all."

No, I'm afraid that all that your other alias has done is repeate your same old mistakes!

"She" hasn't for example done a thing to explain this rediculous idea of yours that the only similarity between walking and dancing is that both have two feet.

Come on, get a clue. Walking and dance walking are fundamentally THE SAME IDEA in their body and standing leg action. There's a trivial difference in that the moving foot is not picked up, and dance walking draws out phases that we tend to pass quickly through in ordinary walking, but they are are just variations of emphasis upon the SAME FUNDAMENTAL MEANS OF LOCOMOTION.
Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by Q
5/11/2007  3:44:00 AM
Who thinks lifting the feet is a trivial thing. Show or point in the direction of any instructor and they will tell you. You have lost control if the feet are not skimming the floor. Except of course the Tango which is a walking dance. Thats right a walking dance.
Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by Anonymous
5/11/2007  9:10:00 AM
"Who thinks lifting the feet is a trivial thing."

If you actually understood the nature of the action of the STANDING FOOT AND BODY, you would recognize that this - the important part - is not really altered by the decision to pick up the foot or not. These critical actions are basically the same between WALKING vs. DANCE WALKING - THEY DIFFER ONLY IN THE EMPHASIS.

"Show or point in the direction of any instructor and they will tell you. You have lost control if the feet are not skimming the floor."

No one recommended picking up the feet.

You are unable to understand that pointing out how picking up the feet will not alter the body or standing leg action IS NOT THE SAME THING AS ADVOCATING PICKING UP THE FEET.

"Except of course the Tango which is a walking dance. Thats right a walking dance."

EXCEPT THAT THE BODY AND STANDING FOOT ACTION IN TANGO IS NOTHING LIKE ORDINARY WALKING!

Again, you concentrate on the TRIVIAL DETAIl OF PICKING UP THE FEET, AND AS A RESULT

TOTALLY

IGNORE

THE

CHARACTER

OF

MOVEMENT

Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by Q.
5/11/2007  5:20:00 PM
You have an incredbly short memory. What exactly did you mean when you wrote
When you dance you are also only on one leg at a time. Do you remember writting that
Your memory is not very good going from one paragraph to the next. In one it would seem you are saying it doesn' t matter if the feet are lifted from the floor. And then. No one recommended picking up the feet.
You should be condeming it. Picking up the feet will alter the body or standing leg action. If you lift your feet from the floor your feet will get faster and you will go out of time with the music. And if you are not aware of the timing you have double trouble. The foot must skim the floor. When we walk our foot does not skim the floor. If it did we would be kicking out feet against any uneven pavement or pathway. Isn't that right.
Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by anymouse
5/11/2007  8:10:00 PM
"You have an incredbly short memory. What exactly did you mean when you wrote
When you dance you are also only on one leg at a time. Do you remember writting that"

Of course I remember writing it. It is so obvious that it was quite shocking that I had to point out such a basic and obvious fact to you!

"In one it would seem you are saying it doesn' t matter if the feet are lifted from the floor. And then. No one recommended picking up the feet."

There is no conflict between those statements. I did not recommend picking up the feet, I pointed out that picking up the moving foot

WOULD

NOT

SERIOUSLY

ALTER

THE

STANDING

LEG

ACTION

That is how the STANDING LEG ACTION can be essentially the same idea in walking, where we do usually pick up the feet, and in dancing where we do not usually lift them.

"If you lift your feet from the floor your feet will get faster"

Only if you have a MISTIMED BODY ACTION.

If you have a well timed body action, your feet will not move too fast, regardless if they are on the floor or not. Do you feet move too fast when you walk down the street? Obviously not. To make them move slower in dancing, you must SLOW DOWN AND DRAW OUT THE BODY ACTION. Dragging your feet to keep them from going to fast is a crutch - a quick fix when there's no time to learn the proper BODY ACTION.

You should not pick up your feet, but YOU SHOULD NOT DRAG THEM WITH BRAKING PRESSURE either. They should skim the floor, NOT DRAG ON IT.

"you will go out of time with the music."

Timing is a function of BODY MOVEMENT. If your body is off time, your are OFF TIME REGARDLESS OF YOUR FEET.

"When we walk our foot does not skim the floor."

Obviously - but you still let this UNIMPORTANT DETAIL DETRACT YOU FROM THE CORE BODY ACTION.

You will never understand the dances until you learn one simple less.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MOVING FOOT !

Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by Q.
5/12/2007  4:41:00 AM
The moving foot stays in contact with the floor it does not lift.
It is all about the moving foot. The first step is just a step. It is on the count of and, or as the moving foot is moving. This is the step we dance. Latin or Modern.
Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by anymouse
5/12/2007  7:30:00 AM
"The moving foot stays in contact with the floor it does not lift."

Yes, but SO WHAT? The foot is in contact with the floor BUT NOT SUPPORTING ANY WEIGHT. Thus there is NO FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE IN THE BODY OR STANDING LEG ACTION CAUSED BY LEAVING IT ON THE FLOOR.

What you've identified is a COSMETIC difference between walking and dance walking - IT IS NOT A *FUNCTIONAL* DIFFERENCE.

"It is all about the moving foot."

Just go around saying that a lot - it will point out to everyone that you really don't understand the first thing about dancing.

Dancing is not about the moving foot.

It's about the MOVING BODY.

And the foot that is moving the body - which is of course the standing foot.

Until you figure that out, you will continue to analyze everything in a severly distorted and backwards way, because you COMPLETELY MIS THE WHOLE POINT OF DANCE TECHNIQUE. The point, as any real dancer will tell you, is to accomplish MOVEMENT OF THE BODY.
Re: Weight ON/IN the foot vs. OVER the foot
Posted by Anonymous
4/28/2007  3:09:00 AM
Champioship dancers do not drop or fall. They use their knees and ankles and are constantly balanced. Are you saying they are not balanced.

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